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--- 3dprinters:heat [2023/05/08 16:20] – created John Harrison
+++ 3dprinters:heat [2023/05/15 09:59] (current) – John Harrison
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   * ABS would require printer modifications
   * PETG might be a reasonable compromise?
-  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CtMZgThiNQ|PETG on Ender 3]]
+==== PETG ====
+  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CtMZgThiNQ|PETG on Ender 3]]
+  * [[https://all3dp.com/2/ender-3-petg-settings-profile/|PETG settings on Ender 3 V2/Pro]] tl;dr no fan, bed at 60*C
 ==== Annealing ====
 Whatever material used, it seems the annealing process will be important
   * [[https://all3dp.com/2/annealing-pla-prints-for-strength-easy-ways/|method for annealing]]: tl;dr use sand and a toaster oven
   * [[https://blog.prusa3d.com/how-to-improve-your-3d-prints-with-annealing_31088/|annealing experiments]]: tl;dr 110*C for PETG
+    * //While the Prusa blog above shows some evidence that annealing helps heat resistance for PETG, CNCKitchen on Youtube shows more compelling evidence that annealing is not effective for PETG without seriously warping the piece.//
+  * CNCKitchen shows compelling evidence that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG8dlxTX3AI|annealing in plaster]] greatly increases heat resistance in PLA and strength in PETG
+=== Annealing PETG (sand) ===
+//Because of warpage and the contradictory evidence that this helps in any significant way for heat resistance or strength this process may not be worth it//
+^Material^temp^ Item      ^ X Pre       ^ X Post ^ Change X by ^ Y Pre          ^ Y Post ^ Change Y by ^ Z Pre ^ Z Post ^ Change Z by ^
+|[[https://atomicfilament.com/products/sample-coil-carbon-fiber-extreme-black-petg?variant=31476521697341|Atomic Carbon Fiber PETG]]|110*C|[[https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4968490/files|W123 pin]]| 49mm     | 46.25mm        |106%|27.82|27.04|103%|  | | |
+|[[https://atomicfilament.com/products/sample-coil-carbon-fiber-extreme-black-petg?variant=31476521697341|Atomic Carbon Fiber PETG]]|110*C|[[https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4968490/files|W123 pin]]| 52.04mm|49.06mm|106%|29.20mm|27.41mm|106.5%|  | | |
+==== ASA ====
+//It may be possible to print ASA with no internal modifications//
+  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjSpVN19x7A|redirect air from hot end]]
+    * [[https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3485372|3D printable part]]
+    * //or just use foil tape?//
+  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqbv3xH4w6c|print ASA on Ender 3]]
+    * [[https://www.matterhackers.com/store/l/fillamentum-asa-filament-075kg/sk/ME1M98A8|ASA filament used]]